Goldman Sachs Communacopia + Tech Conf. 2025: TI CEO Haviv Ilan on Semi Mkt Recovery, Mfg Strategy, & Growth Outlook
Key Takeaways
TL;DR: TI signals robust semi recovery led by data center, steady but lagging improvement in industrial/auto, and full commitment to LT, US-centric mfg/inventory strategy. Major secular tailwinds in automation, electrification, digitization; cautious on NT volatility (esp. China/trade). Targets sustained FCF/sh and margin recovery as scale returns. Embedded processing stabilizing share post-multi-yr losses, w/ further margin, portfolio, and competitive expansion expected. TI expects 2025 data center sales >$1B and reiterates $8–$9 FCF/sh floor for 2026 even on low rev. scenarios.
1. Macro & End-Mkt Trends
- Semi Recovery:
- Recovery began 1Q24: "We troughed...1Q24...seen a recovery since then, different mkts at different phases."
- Data center booming: "Fastest recovering mkt...very strong growth at +50%...back to 2022 level."
- Personal electronics/consumer & comms also recovering.
- Industrial slow but steady, except aero/def at new highs. Most industrial segments "20–40%...below previous peak," due to macro & customer caution.
- China dynamics / Pull-in Effects:
- China seq. growth "close to 20%" in Q2, "a little above natural." Mgmt flags potential inventory pull-ins from China customers ahead of tariffs/trade actions—Q2 outperformance, likely Q3 headwind. "That was an element of Q2...Q3 a little lower than our traditional 6–7% seq. growth."
- Trade & Geopolitical Tensions:
- Ongoing disruption noise, both a drag on LT trendline recovery and driver of alternate sourcing/inventory build.
- CEO: "Trade tensions, geopolitical tensions...a lot of disruption noise...influences the way the mkt wants to go back to trend line."
2. Operating/Fin. Performance & Targets
- Recent Financials:
- Q2 2025: "Co grew at mid-teens, 15–16% YoY. Also, seq...grew 9% seq."—above avg.
- Seq. growth in China (Q2): ~20%.
- GP path-back:
- Focused on LT FCF/sh, not just GP. "[Product] GPs...complicated by capacity adds...DNA stepping up to $2–3B. Inventories fairly elevated."
- GP expectation: "High-60s easily" once scale returns and CapEx/depr. flows normalize.
- FCF / LT Targets:
- 2026 FCF/sh floor: "Even at lower rev. and CapEx, min FCF/sh target was about $8." CEO confirms "$8–9."
- 2030/Rev. goals: "Funnel...2030...about $30–40B rev. and how co can behave in FCF/sh."
3. Mkt & Segment Strategies
- Data Center:
- Fastest growing mkt; 2025 exit annualized run rate "$1–1.2B...growing +50%."
- "Tremendous opp. for growth...maybe single digit portion of mkt, but growing to be...20% of our mkt not so far away..."
- Industrial/Automation:
- "Investments in automation, electrification, digitization...secular growth, even if it takes more time."
- Current industrial rev. still 20–40% below peak, but "seeing now 2–3 Qs of recovery."
- Auto:
- Shallow correction: "Peak to trough...mid- to high-single digits," w/ quick resumption expected due to content growth/vehicle (EV, ADAS, body/comfort).
- China: "55% of new cars sold are EVs in China"; S-curve matured, global transition underway ("R&D...shifting to EV platforms or PHEV").
- Embedded Processing:
- Admits multi-yr share loss since 2017 but says losses have "stabilized."
- Strategy: Expand portfolio (esp. low-power MCUs, wireless, real time control DSPs), more mfg in-house (Lehi), refocus on automation/robotics (e.g., power conversion in data centers, industrial automation).
- Ambition: Embedded to be "at least equal contributor to LT FCF/sh growth."
- App focus: "Automation, robotics...clear efficiency gain on cost per pin...opp. waiting to happen."