Goldman Sachs Communacopia + Tech Conf 2025: Block (SQ) CFO on Growth, Cash App, Square Dist., and Fin. Outlook
Key Takeaways
TL;DR: Block signaled high confidence in 2H25 GP and margin acceleration. Key drivers: product velocity, improved Square/Cash App dist., ongoing mix shift to larger/international sellers, rapid scale/strong econ for Cash App Borrow, primary banking ARPU >3x base, and early signs that new hardware/Proto mining rigs can diversify rev. Mgmt flagged sustained ROI focus in channel build, risk controls in lending, and SFS as a lever for new products/efficiency.
1. Fin. Guidance & Execution
- Strong 2H25 Guide:
- "Very confident" in delivering 2H guide: exit Q4 w/ +19% growth, 20% adj. OP margin.
- GP growth to accelerate in Q3/Q4, even net of higher risk loss from Cash App Borrow.
- Lending Risk Mgmt:
- Mgmt addressed investor concern: Cash App Borrow ramp won't pressure profitability/asset quality. "Accelerate growth … even net of risk loss."
- Underwriting/repayment "steady/healthy" across Square Loans, Cash App Borrow, BNPL.
2. Square Ecosystem (Seller Biz)
- Dist. & GTM Velocity:
- Customer acq. via multiple channels up sharply: Q2 "strongest $ base new vol. ever," "highest growth rate since 2021."
- Sales channel new vol. +20%+ 1H, targeting 40%+ exit 2025 (still minority vs. self-onboard).
- GPV Trends:
- Q2 GPV growth accel.: 7% in Q1 → 10% in Q2. Key verticals (F&B, retail) strong resilience/retention.
- Q2 churn lowest since mid-2023.
- Partnership/Channel Build:
- Partnerships driving "higher/larger leads above targets" (US Foods, Sysco, SalonCentric, T-Mobile, ISOs now in US).
- Field/telesales channels: high ROI, "marginal investments … not diminishing in returns," more to come but ROI discipline emphasized.
- GP to GPV Spread / Take Rate:
- Processing partner renegotiation: ~2%p headwind (est. $80mn annualized), offset by op. flexibility/liquidating req. cash reserves.
- Mix shift to larger/international sellers = lower take rate, but mgmt focused on absolute variable profit dollars, "maintain[ing] pricing power/cross-sell … 30+ products into seller base."
- Brand & Product:
- Square brand refresh ("Square Releases" next month), new hardware (Square Handheld), "transformational" Square Online features.
- Square AI launch = further product diff. investment.
3. Cash App: Growth, Banking, Lending
- Primary Banking:
- Direct deposit actives surge: "300k YTD in July" vs "500k for all 2024."
- Focus on 'primary banking actives': (paycheck deposit or $500/mo spend) now 8mn users (+16% YoY), ARPU $250+ (vs $87 base), "40 txns/mo" = daily usage.
- 40% of base earns nontraditional wages; expanding benefits (overdraft, ATM fee waivers) to "primary banking" not just paycheck-ACH.
- MAU & Inflows:
- MAU, inflows/active, network density = top focus: "Jack/Owen/org fully focused on Cash App MAU growth."
- Viral features (Cash App Pools, Tap to Pay for Cash for Biz) to grow peer connections/out-of-network funds.
- July's Cash In campaign: brand/product expansion, ARPU build via Cash App Card (26mn MAU).
- Lending (Cash App Borrow):
- 1H25 origination doubled: "$18bn annualized run rate," 6mn MAU.
- High-turn, small-ticket (avg. $100–$150, <4wks, 15–17 turns/yr), "annualized net margin ~24%" (target 20%+).
- Ramp into 20+ new states in 2H25 via SFS, more profit/control: "Extremely deliberate ramp into new cohorts."
- Underwriting: proprietary models approve 38% more (same loss) vs. VantageScore.